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Final Reflection 70B Update — My Post-Mortem

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Matt Shumer's Reflection 70B project, prompt engineering, and synthetic data collaboration

  • Matt Shumer completed his training run and benchmarking on Sahil’s code and dataset, sharing findings and a timeline of the Reflection 70B scenario to provide community insight into the situation.
  • Reflection 70B was a curiosity-driven experiment aimed at improving stock LLM performance through prompt engineering and fine-tuning.
  • The initial idea behind Reflection-Tuning was to train LLMs to detect and correct mistakes in their reasoning processes, potentially enhancing performance.
  • Shumer's early experiments with “super-prompts” suggested that improving LLMs' reflective capabilities could lead to more accurate responses and better reasoning.
  • The project began as a side endeavor during a vacation, motivated by the desire to explore the Reflection-Tuning concept without impacting his main focus on HyperWrite.
  • Shumer collaborated with Sahil, CEO of Glaive, to leverage their expertise in synthetic data for the Reflection-Tuning experiment, as high-quality data was essential for the project.
  • The initial training of the Reflection model started with Llama 3.1 8B to allow for faster iterations.

Scaling 8B models to 70B, training challenges, and launch issues

  • Initial training of the 8B models showed mixed results, leading to the hypothesis that model scale was inadequate for complex tasks.
  • The decision was made to scale up to 70B models, with initial training using LoRA yielding only mediocre results.
  • Full fine-tuning was chosen to maximize model performance, but resource limitations hindered multiple iterations.
  • Sahil took over the training process due to having extra compute resources, while the speaker focused on creative direction.
  • The speaker did not have direct access to the training process or model weights, relying on Sahil's reports and API testing.
  • The launch was planned for September 5th, influenced by competitive pressures and a desire to get ahead of other models.
  • The speaker acknowledged a lack of thorough validation of Sahil's claims and benchmarks prior to the launch.
  • The launch generated unexpected viral interest, leading to overwhelming traffic and subsequent issues with the API.
  • Problems arose post-launch, including tokenizer issues and discrepancies in model outputs compared to expectations.

Model retraining issues, inconsistent API behavior, and performance discrepancies

  • Sahil retrained the model without special tokens, leading to performance issues compared to the original API results.
  • Reports emerged about the API's inconsistent behavior when prompted with the word 'Claude.'
  • An investigation revealed discrepancies in the system prompt used for benchmarking, affecting the model's performance.
  • Sahil achieved varying HumanEval scores, but others could not replicate his results, indicating inconsistencies in the model's performance.
  • The model often added unnecessary output labels, even when not prompted for multiple-choice questions.
  • The author decided to train the model from scratch using Sahil's dataset and scripts to verify performance claims.
  • The newly trained model's scores were significantly lower than those initially reported, prompting the author to share findings publicly.
  • The author acknowledges the need for greater vigilance and skepticism in evaluating performance claims and the influence of public statements.

Community support, emotional resilience, and meticulous Reflection development process

  • The unexpected traction of the model announcement highlighted the responsibility of being a public figure.
  • The speaker experienced a low point emotionally but received support from the community.
  • Gratitude is expressed towards the team of investigators who dedicated their time to help.
  • Acknowledgment of the co-founder’s support during difficult times.
  • Appreciation for family and friends who supported the speaker through emotional challenges.
  • The speaker is working on a new version of Reflection, taking a thorough and independent approach to development.
  • Commitment to not rush the new version and to ensure thorough testing and validation.
  • The speaker remains optimistic about the idea of Reflection-Tuning and encourages community support.

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